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FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala".
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> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala".
Cold-eyed reality is that we’ve been living in a global economy since WWII, and also that both technology & economic forces are continually reducing the number of workers needed worldwide – it just isn’t those 2 corporate states’ turn yet. A much bigger issue, is how your masters will go about reducing the population to cut the expenses of maintaining & managing increasing numbers of nonproductive human captial franchisees (often still called "citizens").
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Thanks to Oprah car sales are up! up! UP! > FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD
FORD TO UNIONS: DROP DEAD Unions = Exhorbitant pay for lazy ineffective workers. Stay competitive America! Bust the union mafia! As a former Navel Aerator, (you know I am a formal Navy Aerator) this is something I know a little about. In fact I know little about a great deal of subjects. Now Oprah on the other hand, there’s a woman who knows how to shave ~!~ The next Socialist Idol: M~!~MulaY – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala".
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > Cold-eyed reality is that we’ve been living in a global economy since > WWII, and also that both technology & economic forces are continually > reducing the number of workers needed worldwide – it just isn’t those > 2 corporate states’ turn yet. A much bigger issue, is how your > masters will go about reducing the population to cut the expenses of > maintaining & managing increasing numbers of nonproductive human > captial franchisees (often still called "citizens").
The cold-eyed reality is that the CEOs and VPs in many major corporations make a thousand times what a guy on the line makes. The cold-eyed reality is that for them greed is good. The cold-eyed reality is that if they were a tad more ethical then 22,000 more people would actually be able to afford (pardon the pun) the shit boxes that roll off their assembly lines. The cold-eyed reality is that the corporations have been fucking the middle class up the ass for a long, long time because they care more about money than their fellow man. And you’re right, they will try to exterminate as many of us as possible once they’ve squandered our resources beyond the point of sustainability for the general populace. Our only solace will come when they inevitably turn on each other. Unless we bring them down. Up the revolution! Bring ‘em on! Tubeguru
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> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala".
http://untruenews.com/2002/jan14.html Regards, Rich Koerner, Time Electronics. http://www.timeelect.com Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, Music & Studio Production, Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers
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Auto makers aren’t in the business of creating jobs. — Kevin -=#=-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The > cold-eyed reality is that if they were a tad more ethical then 22,000 more > people would actually be able to afford (pardon the pun) the shit boxes > that
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > Cold-eyed reality is that we’ve been living in a global economy since > WWII, and also that both technology & economic forces are continually > reducing the number of workers needed worldwide – it just isn’t those > 2 corporate states’ turn yet. A much bigger issue, is how your > masters will go about reducing the population to cut the expenses of > maintaining & managing increasing numbers of nonproductive human > captial franchisees (often still called "citizens"). > The cold-eyed reality is that the CEOs and VPs in many major corporations > make a thousand times what a guy on the line makes. The cold-eyed reality > is > that for them greed is good. The > cold-eyed reality is that if they were a tad more ethical then 22,000 more > people would actually be able to afford (pardon the pun) the shit boxes > that > roll off their assembly lines. The cold-eyed reality is that the > corporations have been fucking the middle class up the ass for a long, > long > time > because they care more about money than their fellow man. And you’re > right, > they will try to exterminate as many of us as possible once they’ve > squandered our resources beyond the point > of sustainability for the general populace. Our only solace will come when > they inevitably turn on each other. Unless we bring them down. Up the > revolution! Bring ‘em on! > Tubeguru
Or, maybe the citizens will come to realize that just like Islamists, the only good multi-national is a dead multi-national. "Let them eat cake", marked the end of an era. It is time that the multi-national corporations met their demise. They no longer work for the good of the people. Their license to exist is about to expire. Everyone – sell your multi-national stocks. We can show them who is boss. Ed Cregger
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Fascinating that one of the AGA leftists was forced to pull a "news" clip from over 2 years ago that wasn’t true to begin with, then goes on an anti-captitalist & CEO rant, making a total idiot of themselves. It might surprise you Corporate America-haters that Mr. Ford, grandson of Henry Ford I, accepts no financial comensation, no salary or bonus, as chairman of FOMOCO. That is, he runs Ford Motor FOR NOTHING when he could receive millions. Name one liberal politician who does his job for nothing! Go ahead NAME ONE!!!!!! Further, name one liberal who’s ever employed over 250,000 workers, provided them with health & life insurance, retirement benefits second to none, etc. And runs a company over 100 years old. Go ahead NAME ONE!!!!! Fact is, liberals profess to LOVE JOBS, but they hate the institutions and individuals that provide them. Perhaps their real heros, old Vlady Lenin or his buddy Little Joe Stalin will be reincarnated and show the way. Last time we looked, the commies’ legacy was poor people murdered by the millions and a century later, still living in filth. Grow up you asshols: Go to school, get a job and shut the fuck up!!!!
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > http://untruenews.com/2002/jan14.html > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, > Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers
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> Grow up you asshols: Go to school, get a job and shut the fuck up!!!!
Jerry, could you be a little more explicit and tell us how you really feel? <G> I like a blend of capitalism, socialism, ismism, futurism, archeoism, etcism. I would like to blend the best features of all "isms" into one system and then keep only the good parts that work together. When a hard right wing conservative calls me a lefty and a lefty calls me a conservative, I know I’m doing something right – er – left? Ed Cregger
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > Cold-eyed reality is that we’ve been living in a global economy since > WWII, and also that both technology & economic forces are continually > reducing the number of workers needed worldwide – it just isn’t those > 2 corporate states’ turn yet. A much bigger issue, is how your > masters will go about reducing the population to cut the expenses of > maintaining & managing increasing numbers of nonproductive human > captial franchisees (often still called "citizens"). > The cold-eyed reality is that the CEOs and VPs in many major corporations > make a thousand times what a guy on the line makes. The cold-eyed reality is > that for them greed is good. The > cold-eyed reality is that if they were a tad more ethical then 22,000 more > people would actually be able to afford (pardon the pun) the shit boxes that > roll off their assembly lines. The cold-eyed reality is that the > corporations have been fucking the middle class up the ass for a long, long > time > because they care more about money than their fellow man. And you’re right, > they will try to exterminate as many of us as possible once they’ve > squandered our resources beyond the point > of sustainability for the general populace. Our only solace will come when > they inevitably turn on each other. Unless we bring them down. Up the > revolution! Bring ‘em on! > Tubeguru
Riiiight on…brother!
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Gee, that’s profoundly obtuse. So I guess *no one* needs a job at a corporation, right? After all, they’re not the place to get a job, are they? And not the place to make enough money to buy one of their products, are they? And fuck the American dream of having a good rewarding job, a suitable home and a nice car. I can imagine if founder, Henry Ford was still alive he’d be personally strangling his descendent, Clay Ford Jr. as we speak and most likely having a few words to Baghdad Buush and the fanaticon Congress.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Auto makers aren’t in the business of creating jobs. > — > Kevin > -=#=- > The > cold-eyed reality is that if they were a tad more ethical then 22,000 more > people would actually be able to afford (pardon the pun) the shit boxes > that
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > http://untruenews.com/2002/jan14.html > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Time Electronics. > http://www.timeelect.com > Specialists in Live Sound FOH Engineering, > Music & Studio Production, > Vintage Instruments, and Tube Amplifiers
Truth is stranger than fiction he he he he 
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AND NOW FOR THE REAL NEWS!!!!!!! The great irony of Ex-Im policy is not just that taxpayer support goes to wealthy and profitable corporations that don’t need it, but that in the name of "job creation" a substantial amount of federal funding goes to precisely those corporations that are eliminating hundreds of thousands of American jobs. In other words, American workers are providing funding to companies that are shutting down the plants in which they work, and are moving them to China, Mexico, Vietnam and wherever else they can find cheap labor. What a deal! For example, General Electric has received over $2.5 billion in direct loans and loan guarantees from the Ex-Im Bank. And what was the result? From 1975-1995 GE reduced its workforce from 667,000 to 398,000, a decline of 269,000 jobs. In fact, while taking the Ex-Im Bank subsidies, GE was extremely public about it’s "globalization" plans to lay off American workers and move jobs to Third World countries. Jack Welch, the longtime CEO of GE stated, "Ideally, you’d have every plant you own on a barge." General Motors has received over $500 million in direct loans and loan guarantees from the Export-Import Bank. The result? GM has shrunk its U.S. workforce from 559,000 to 314,000. Motorola has received almost $500 million in direct loans and loan subsidies from the Ex-Im Bank. The result? A mere 56 percent of its workforce is now located in the United States. In fact, according to Time Magazine, the top five recipients of Ex-Im subsidies over the past decade have reduced their workforce by 38% – more than a third of a million jobs down the drain. These same five companies have received more than 60 percent of all Export-Import Bank subsidies. Boeing, the leading Ex-Im recipient, has reduced its workforce by more than 100,000 employees over the past ten years. Here are a few examples of your Ex-Im taxpayer dollars at work: The Export-Import Bank has provided an $18 million loan to help a Chinese steel mill purchase equipment to modernize their plant. This Chinese company has been accused of illegally dumping steel into the U.S. – exacerbating the crisis in our steel industry. Since 1994, the Export-Import Bank has provided $673 million in loans and loan guarantees for projects related to the Enron Corporation, leaving taxpayers exposed to $514 million. The Ex-Im Bank approved a $300 million loan for an Enron-related project in India even though the World Bank repeatedly refused to finance this project because it was "not economically viable." THIS ONE HERE OUGHT TO REALLY GET YOUR GOAT! NATIONAL SECURITY? HA HA HA HA HA HA The Export-Import Bank is subsidizing Boeing aircraft sales to the Chinese military. According to the President of Machinists’ Local 751: "Boeing used to make tail sections for the 737 in Wichita, but they moved the work to a military factory in Xian, China. Is this Boeing’s definition of free trade, to have American workers compete with Chinese labor making $50 a month under military discipline?" The Ex-Im Bank insured a $3-million loan to aid General Electric build a factory where Mexican workers will make parts for appliances to export back to the United States. This project is responsible for the loss of 1,500 American jobs in Bloomington, Indiana. And on and on it goes. The bottom line is that if the Export-Import Bank cannot be reformed so as to become a vehicle for real job creation in the United States, it should be eliminated. American citizens have better things to do with their money than support an agency that provides welfare for corporations that could care less about American workers
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> Gee, that’s profoundly obtuse. > So I guess *no one* needs a job at a corporation, right? > After all, they’re not the place to get a job, are they? > And not the place to make enough money to buy one > of their products, are they? And fuck the American dream > of having a good rewarding job, a suitable home and a nice car.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I said. You’re a moron, on your best days. Typical liberal. > I can imagine if founder, Henry Ford was still alive he’d be personally > strangling his descendent, Clay Ford Jr. as we speak and most likely > having a few words to Baghdad Buush and the fanaticon Congress.
That was a fun little indulgence. Your medication must be kicking in. — Kevin -=#=-
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> AND NOW FOR THE REAL NEWS!!!!!!! > The great irony of Ex-Im policy is not just that taxpayer support goes > to wealthy and profitable corporations that don’t need it, but that in
There went your credibility, again. Who determines "need"? — Kevin -=#=-
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" into one system and > then keep only the good parts that work together. > When a hard right wing conservative calls me a lefty and a lefty calls me a > conservative, I know I’m doing something right – er – left? > Ed Cregger
Incorrect. You’re uh bi-lingual er I mean ambidexterous! http://www.ambidextrous.org/tunes.htm No?
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Just having a little fun with you. Seeing if Lord Valve and his minions were on their toesie wosies. Catch me! catch me! catch me!!!! But fact of the matter is Who determines need? The person who "Needs" the most power. Or should that be the person who "wants" the most power. You tell me? and tell me the difference between "want" and "need" ? http://est.rbma.com/content/Bizarro?date=20040828
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Greg "asshol" McGeorge’s Quality Job 1… LV needs a cheeze scraping behind the stinking meat slab he uses for a walker. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Grow up you asshols: Go to school, get a job and shut the fuck up!!!!
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Who determines need? The giver. "Need" is when you’re desperate enough to ask for help, and you’ll take whatever is offered. "Want" is when you’ll take is offered, and still demand more. People need. Liberals want. — Kevin -=#=-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just having a little fun with you. Seeing if Lord Valve and his minions > were on their toesie wosies. Catch me! catch me! catch me!!!! > But fact of the matter is > Who determines need? The person who "Needs" the most power. Or should > that be the person who "wants" the most power. You tell me? and tell me > the difference between "want" and "need" ? > http://est.rbma.com/content/Bizarro?date=20040828
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You’ve needed a punch in the face since you were "little", but you’re a suburban rat . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Who determines need? The giver. "Need" is when you’re desperate enough to > ask for help, and you’ll take whatever is offered. "Want" is when you’ll > take is offered, and still demand more. > People need. Liberals want.
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> Who determines need? The giver. "Need" is when you’re desperate enough to > ask for help, and you’ll take whatever is offered. "Want" is when you’ll > take is offered, and still demand more. > People need. Liberals want. > — > Kevin > -=#=-
How’s that agian? you’re saying liberals aren’t people. What about libertarians? Let’s see now there are people…. and then there is every one else. People are what? Define needs. Here are some definitions. LV can tell you where I got them. "The fundamental motivations and requirements of people, not to be confused with "wants" or "desires". The distinction between "needs" and "wants" becomes subject to debate beyond the minimal levels of basics such as food, clothing, shelter, drinkable water, and breathable air. Items that most Americans would consider necessities of life may be useless extravagances to other cultures. Psychological studies have indicated that conditions that should have no effect on the body may be necessities for maintaining mental health, and therefore physical health and productivity." "Something deemed to be necessary for survival that has no or few substitutes. Most of what we perceive we need is in fact a "want." There are substitutes for almost everything." "Result from a discrepancy between an actual and a desired state of being" Let me use your definition of want "Want" is when you’ll > take is offered, and still demand more. That sounds like what happens during contract renewal time in every pro sport.
If I understand you correctly wanting is a bad thing? A Liberal attribute??? Come again? Would you care to rephrase that?
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> Fascinating that one of the AGA leftists was forced to pull a "news" clip > from over 2 years ago that wasn’t true to begin with, then goes on an > anti-captitalist & CEO rant, making a total idiot of themselves.
I wasn’t forced to post a totally fake news story from a satirical site. I did it to get a rise out of you all. You have no sense of humor whatsoever. I did it totally on purpose for fun to antaognize you and to see if our great and fearless leader would tag me, but you did instead. I am not a lefist. I own my own company and more real estate than I want. I employee more than 10 people. I happen to think that manufacuring in the US matters. I think that once our manufacturing base is gone, we’re vulnerable to those who make everything we use. All service business rely on tools and machines. It’s a dangerous thing to have to rely on someone else. I think the CEOs I throw mud at have no loyalty to this country whatsoever and are motivated by greed, many are criminals pure and simple. One can be a capitalist while critiqueing the system. I happen to think it is one’s duty to do so. The total idiot is the one who participates in group think. 8 lesson in group think – google it up yourself. Illusion of Invulnerability: Members ignore obvious danger, take extreme risk, and are overly optimistic. Collective Rationalization: Members discredit and explain away warning contrary to group thinking. Illusion of Morality: Members believe their decisions are morally correct, ignoring the ethical consequences of their decisions. Excessive Stereotyping:The group constructs negative sterotypes of rivals outside the group. Pressure for Conformity: Members pressure any in the group who express arguments against the group’s stereotypes, illusions, or commitments, viewing such opposition as disloyalty. Self-Censorship: Members withhold their dissenting views and counter-arguments. Illusion of Unanimity: Members perceive falsely that everyone agrees with the group’s decision; silence is seen as consent. Mindguards: Some members appoint themselves to the role of protecting the group from adverse information that might threaten group complacency. A lot of you guys are guilty as charged whatever your political name.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD > The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce > expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. > Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had > strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it > cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " > Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford > told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can > apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > http://untruenews.com/2002/jan14.html > Regards, > Rich Koerner,
Hey Rich … with all due respect, this is exactly what you were on about concerning industries going "offshore". Yeah, I know ZW is satirizing the situation, but it IS the situation. Right? — Don http://www.don-evans.com
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> How’s that agian? you’re saying liberals aren’t people. What about > libertarians? Let’s see now there are people…. and then there is > every one else. People are what?
Libertarians won’t ask for help. We’re motivated self-starters! People are everyone "not liberal". > Define needs.
Already did. > Here are some definitions. LV can tell you where I got them.
All that matters is that you have to borrow ideas, again. > "The fundamental motivations and requirements of people, not to be > confused with "wants" or "desires". The distinction between "needs" > and "wants" becomes subject to debate beyond the minimal levels of > basics such as food, clothing, shelter, drinkable water, and > breathable air. Items that most Americans would consider necessities > of life may be useless extravagances to other cultures. Psychological > studies have indicated that conditions that should have no effect on > the body may be necessities for maintaining mental health, and > therefore physical health and productivity."
The Salvation Army "needs" donations, but they aren’t the ones "in need". Students "need" school supplies, but they "want" designer backpacks. > "Something deemed to be necessary for survival that has no or few > substitutes. Most of what we perceive we need is in fact a "want." > There are substitutes for almost everything."
For some things, there are no substitutes. For example, the rights enumerated in our Bill of Rights. > "Result from a discrepancy between an actual and a desired state of > being"
That’s not even a complete sentence. You’re clipboard must be full! > Let me use your definition of want "Want" is when you’ll > take is offered, and still demand more. That sounds like what happens > during contract renewal time in every pro sport.
It also sounds like liberal lobbyists seeking new entitlements. It makes me think of baby birds in the nest, being fed by their parents. > If I understand you correctly wanting is a bad thing? A Liberal > attribute???
You do not understand. > Come again? Would you care to rephrase that?
Anybody can want. Liberals just want, and very little else, to the detriment of all. — Kevin -=#=-
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> FORD TO AMERICA: DROP DEAD >> The Ford Motor Company will close five plants in an effort to reduce >> expenses. 22,000 people in the USA are expected to lose their jobs. >> Ford Chairman and CEO William Clay Ford Jr. said the company had >> strayed from their primary goal of making quality automobiles "and it >> cost us dearly. And by ‘us’ I mean ‘you’. " >> Bristling at criticism that Ford is screwing their workers, Mr. Ford >> told Untrue News "If the workers want their jobs so badly, they can >> apply at our plants in Thailand and Guatemala". > http://untruenews.com/2002/jan14.html > Regards, > Rich Koerner, > Hey Rich … with all due respect, this is exactly what you were on about > concerning industries going "offshore". Yeah, I know ZW is satirizing the > situation, but it IS the situation. Right?
It is the situation. I wish I knew the answer to the problem. I don’t, but I do know when some politician cooks up a phony answer. Long term, it looks like the answer is gonna be learning how to live with a lower standard of living. I think we are already living with a lower standard of living. The quality of our "things" is arguably much lower than our "things" of even 20 years ago. Like ol Kevin says. There’s wants and then there’s needs. Most of what we think we need, we really want. Thank you Advertising Age. Anyhoo, Welcome to the post industrial world. Service = servitude. I think it’s gonna look a whole lot like the pre-industrial world but a whole lot nastier, Under The Thunderdome on radioactive steriods nasty.
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